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I had a biofeedback session today but walked out of it kind of confused.

 

Can anyone tell me anything about this?? They want me to do 4 more sessions at $150/each (probably not covered by BCBS.)

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I had a biofeedback session today but walked out of it kind of confused.

 

Can anyone tell me anything about this?? They want me to do 4 more sessions at $150/each (probably not covered by BCBS.)

My ds12 tried it and did not have success using it with a Pandas exacerbation. Our insurance covered the dr. visit that determined it would do him good but not the biofeedback sessions. Go figure. Since he has not wanted to practice daily (which is necessary) and it did not help him at all thru an exacerbation, will discontinue. We also have other medical costs coming up and cannot do both.

 

It does seem viable under right circumstances, but with PANDAS I do not believe the kids have a lot of choice.

 

Best of luck if you decide to pursue this course.

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Hi we do biofeedback in my clinic mostly for neuro muscular reeducation. It is fully covered by all insurances if a physical or occupational therapist does it.

What kind of biofeedback are you doing? For what purpose I mean?

I would be happy to give you the codes etc we use. PM me if you like.

Jodie

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I *think* it is for pain management. It's not for PANDAS symptoms, but for Lyme-related things for myself.

ok, what equipment are they using? I mean I feel bad for you. If its for pain management and a PT does it, the PT will give you a rehab diagnosis code (ICD-9) and then do the pain management with a procedure code (CPT) that will be covered by insurance. I mean its pretty standard.The insurance companies have designated codes they will cover for different professionals and biofeedback falls in the realm of PT and OT depending on the type used for what reason. Seriously, in my peds neuro practice we use this code for so many of our little patients and based upon issue involved the OT or the PT does it.

Also a TENS unit is fully reimbursable, cheap even and can be used for at home pain management. So need some details from you. What kind of doc is doing this for you?

Jodie

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Jodie-will they cover neuro feedback too or only bio feedback?

 

Hi we do biofeedback in my clinic mostly for neuro muscular reeducation. It is fully covered by all insurances if a physical or occupational therapist does it.

What kind of biofeedback are you doing? For what purpose I mean?

I would be happy to give you the codes etc we use. PM me if you like.

Jodie

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I'm really confused. This was done at the LLMD office and they told me it was both diagnostic and healing. I had a session yesterday where I just sat hooked up in a chair and the woman typed stuff into the computer after leaving me hooked up alone in the room for 3 minutes. She then read the screen and wrote down different areas that needed 'work' and told me she was correcting things as she read them off. It had categories for things like toxins, susceptibility, bacteria, viruses, etc. and huge long lists under each for things that pertained to me specifically.

 

I didn't "do" anything but sit there across the room. Most of the things I read online about biofeedback say you concentrate or something? I know it's used for headaches and it has been recommended that I do this for years for my migraines, but I am not understanding how it is supposed to work.

 

I have the card of the person who did it and her name has "LMT, CBS & Instructor" behind it- which means nothing to me. I don't think she is an OT or PT. It says "LIFE System" on the card too, which I assume is the machine she was using.

 

She said I was supposed to do 4 more of these for the full benefit. Again, I'm very confused.

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I'm really confused. This was done at the LLMD office and they told me it was both diagnostic and healing. I had a session yesterday where I just sat hooked up in a chair and the woman typed stuff into the computer after leaving me hooked up alone in the room for 3 minutes. She then read the screen and wrote down different areas that needed 'work' and told me she was correcting things as she read them off. It had categories for things like toxins, susceptibility, bacteria, viruses, etc. and huge long lists under each for things that pertained to me specifically.

 

I didn't "do" anything but sit there across the room. Most of the things I read online about biofeedback say you concentrate or something? I know it's used for headaches and it has been recommended that I do this for years for my migraines, but I am not understanding how it is supposed to work.

 

I have the card of the person who did it and her name has "LMT, CBS & Instructor" behind it- which means nothing to me. I don't think she is an OT or PT. It says "LIFE System" on the card too, which I assume is the machine she was using.

 

She said I was supposed to do 4 more of these for the full benefit. Again, I'm very confused.

LMT is probably a Licensed "massage" therapist? I don't know. or "licensed medical technician?

 

So its not just for pain management medically speaking then. It sounds more holistic like stuff that really doesn't have clearly defined roles. YES- one type of REAL biofeedback is concentrating on your problem- headaches, BP etc and trying to lower by sheer focus and positive feedback you seen on the computer screen when you're hooked up to it.

If he wants you to have pain relief then he should just give you a script for PT and the PT will do the billing etc for you.

Lyme protocols By Dr Klinghardt do include electric stim but only Klinghardt trained practitioners do that or again can write a script for the exact frequencies they want for you and send you off to a PT who accepts insurance. Estim can interrpt lyme multiplication cycles and helps curb the bacterial growth.

I don't understand what yor LLMD is doing with you? Why don't you ask for a copy of your chart?

I once went to a TMJ specialist and didn't reveal my professional status. His first treatment was a lame self applied uultrasound which I would apply on myself and then electric stim for 40 mins!! I simply walked out at the end of the ultrasound.

Anyways, you need to find out exactly what theyre doing to you

Whats the machine do? Give e-stim? what frequency? does it pulse?

HOW is this machine going to help you?

Please do ask. Keep me posted.Get your exact RX. The tech should have your specs and get those from her.

I would be happy to call on your behalf if you like.

Jodie

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Jodie-will they cover neuro feedback too or only bio feedback?

 

Neuromuscular feedback is/can be coded as neuromuscular rehab/re education. That has a particular code that insurance companies are usually ok with if done by a PT or an OT.All depends on how your clinician codes your diagnosis and procedure codes.

I hope that helps.

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Oddly enough, I have had two realllly good days (energy!!) since having this done. Don't get me wrong, it could just be a fluke, but that is the most energetic and best I have felt in a year or more, so it seems a little odd to me that it is "just" a coincidence. I may have another to see what happens and go from there. The jury is still out on whether I want to pay $150/pop for this though, even for a few days of sustained energy and motivation. (Let's see how long it lasts and how clean my house stays, how my temperment with my kids improves LOL)

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