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    smartyjones got a reaction from dasu in increasingly concerned about non-pans son   
    i don't think you are out of your mind -- I think you are aware of something -- something most people, even family members, are not aware of.
     
    many years ago, I was at a group of about 4-6 pandas moms. we were discussing our pandas child. we met again about 3 months later - we were all discussing how another child was now showing symptoms -- each of us! it was really bizarre.
     
    I remember my 2nd son, who is the older, having trouble at night -- something like night terrors as he was going to sleep. (it's funny how you actually do forget some things!) I said to dh , "are we just going to wait until he falls apart to take him in?" well, apparently we were, because some weeks later there was no doubt we needed to have him evaluated for pandas.
     
    the thing is - I even think now, if it had been him first, he could have flown under the radar as troublesome and many people could have had many explanations about his behavior. my 1st son is classic, no doubt pandas; the second is diagnosed - but not the slam dunk case of the first. 2nd has clear infection related anxiety and OCD behaviors. but he also has subtle anxiety and OCD behaviors, with a huge step up with infection. it is something that impedes his success, but not so much that it impedes his life, like the classic son. so, if I did not know what I know because of the 1st son, would the 2nd son be diagnosed? maybe, maybe not. whereas the 1st would certainly have.
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    smartyjones got a reaction from MomWithOCDSon in please positive vibes   
    Thanks so much! He must have felt good vibes! He did well. he's uncomfortable today not too bad, but he's doing okay.
     
    They didn't do the full surgery - it was getting long and he was getting uncomfortable. This was part of the decisions we were trying to make -- knock him out and do it all with full sedation or see what we could do. the surgery itself didn't need full sedation, the question was whether he would. he took Valium and refused nitrous oxide (from what i could tell, t this seems to mainly be a MTHFR issue, which he doesn't have, so i was going to allow it)
     
    So - we are still not done. Aghh - we are going to still have to deal with the tooth in the jaw. but i guess if we have to put him under,i'll feel we have done what we could have to avoid it.
     
    mpatti -- yes, wierd! i think it's somehow got to be related. i often wonder how this one child of mine has pandas, 2E and supernumerary teeth -- all supposedly very rare conditions.
     
    i love the natalie merchant song Wonder. "I confound you and astound you " she wrote it when she did work with special needs kids.
     

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    smartyjones got a reaction from MomWithOCDSon in please positive vibes   
    Please send some positive vibes my ds's way. he's actually doing quite well -- and is in the oral surgeon's chair right now having supernumerary teeth removed. all things considered - he's done fairly well. the spot is in the front of the mouth, so we're grabbing all the positives we can! dh took him because I am tapped out and unable to deal. thank you, dh!
     
    since last September, this child has had a relapse of PANDAS symptoms with Lyme with positive EM rash ; strep in December; myco in January; and a horrible school situation. we were able to finally get him back to baseline sometime March/April-ish. and still -- he has these extra pebble teeth and an adult tooth almost laying down in his jaw that must come out.
     
    it makes me chuckle a little when I try to think of things to be grateful for, that those who are too ignorant to understand think that he has poor or no coping skills - what they don't realize is that he actually has some stellar coping skills - he just needs to be led to use them because he has such more severe challenges than what is 'normal' for his age.
     
    so please send any positive thoughts our way!! Thanks!!!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from SSS in PANDAS and gender preference   
    I gotta tell you dasu -- I know it's really hard to see the positives and things to be grateful for in the thick of it all. . .
     
    if these are her words to mom "I want to like you but I feel like I don't...but I always love you
     
    I think that is great articulation and knowledge and expression of feelings for a 5 year old!
     
    I know the words may feel rough -- but I'd advise you to see the expression and work to build on that. even when the expression may be not so nice and may be delivered harshly - I'd say compliment the expression and give some tips - but I see that expression as a positive!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from PowPow in educational testing   
    please give good ideas of specific educational tests.
     
    has anyone actually done the rey complex drawing test? can that be done by a school or is it a more complex neuropsych test?
     
    are there specific tests that can test out sequencing issues?
     
    thanks.
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    smartyjones got a reaction from MomWithOCDSon in aboulia   
    full disclosure that I learned this from an episode of "House"
     
    aboulia is the inability to make a decision or exercise free will; a reduction in action, emotion and cognition; is a frontal lobe issue; may be dopamine-related dysfunction
     
    basal ganglia issues often result in the inability to initiate speech, movement and social interaction; also often some form of diminished motivation
     
    aboulla is featured in many neuropscyh disorders
     
    I most likely think my ds's inability to make a decision is due to OCD of the just right type in that he is fearful of making the wrong decision, so he cannot make any decision. he experiences this during exacerbation.
     
    during extreme exacerbation, it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to break through; thus why I found this concept interesting as not OCD based but brain function based (of course I know OCD is brain based, please get my meaning)
     
    has anyone who sees 'the pandas docs' had them discuss this concept or do they just speak of it in the extreme OCD terms?
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    smartyjones got a reaction from momslove in WHO AM I TO BE MAKING THESE DECISIONS?!   
    oh momslove -- YOU are. I know where you are and how you feel but it is you and even if you don't realize it now -- some day you will know that that is actually a powerful place to be and you are the best decision maker for your child.
     
    I had some trouble, not serious, just mainly discomfort and 'crookedness' late in the pregnancy with ds10. I saw an acupuncturist that really was able to help. at one appointment, she said to me, 'please remember you have all of the strength of all the woman who have gone before you in this.' so, I say to you -- please remember, you have all of the strength of all the parents before and with you on this battle path.
     
    3 years ago when ds was having trouble with school and left school to finish the last 7 months of 2nd grade on hometeaching (especially sad b/c it didn't have to go that way - but we couldn't reach understanding and agreement with school) - our wise psych tried to impart to me that it was okay, because it was up to me, in the end, I was the one who could make the decisions. at the time, it felt horrible and I don't think i'll ever forget crying in her office that I didn't want it to be up to me, I didn't want to make the decisions.l
     
    now, unfortunately, we are facing the same situation (although possibly a better outcome b/c of more caring school) I KNOW that that is actually an empowering situation and I wouldn't want it any different.
     
    Good luck!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from MomWithOCDSon in "Bought" new Jeff Hays movie on big pharma, vaccines, GMO   
    best quote I've heard in years! "just because you question something doesn't mean you are opposed to it, it just means you want more information."
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    smartyjones got a reaction from MomWithOCDSon in basic daily tasks? Cant or won't do!   
    YES -- a pandas child can be that obstinate!!!!!!! I would heavily second SSS's suggestion of the book Explosive Child -- I am a huge fan of Dr. Ross Greene!
    I would not expect the tips in the book to change your son's behavior immediately or even quickly -- but it will give you tips on how to interact with him to ease the problem without getting drawn into the drama. if you apply the concepts consistently, over time - it will have an effect on your child. but the initial successes will come from your interaction with him and will ease your involvement and angst over the incidents. you can check out livesinthebalance.com.
     
     
    I would encourage you to learn about OCD and it's 'hidden' insidiousness. my son likely had the form of 'just right' OCD. not lining things up and making them equal - but that things were either 'right' or not. this was often hard to determine as it was 'right' in his brain only. there was a time I found it helpful to ask him if there was a reason, no reason or a reason he couldn't say. this seemed to somehow help us. also, the reason was often that it wasn't what he had planned or was expecting. I really don't think this was manipulative, it was troublesome to his brain. I term that my ds's exacerbation symptoms are 'Asperger like'. this was very helpful in working with him.
     
    another thing I have found helpful is "Social thinking". you can google it. it was extremely helpful in putting things in terms that made sense to him and showed results.
     
    hopefully, dcmom may post. she had a really good technique of sitting out until compliant -- kind of like time out, but different -- better to work with an older kid than traditional time out. if she doesn't post, maybe you can PM her.
     
    Good Luck!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from 1tiredmama in Bullseye rash questions--help!   
    excellent. yes - I'd say check that out thoroughly for the time frame.
     
    watch the sun on doxy!!!!! I got a bad burn even when I thought I was being very careful!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from MomWithOCDSon in a grocery cart only this forum would understand   
    after a hellacious 2 weeks -- ds9 has been in a good state of remission for 2 years, had a great year at school last year, had a really good fall, started falling apart this Feb when 2E issues were not being addressed - very up and down few months - finally began getting straightened out 3 weeks ago ; fell further last week with a misunderstood severe fight or flight reaction to a sensory overload in a classroom -- further exacerbated this week when school tried to force him back into class (and this is a school and staff that I love)
    this week, integrative MD says believes rocky mountain spotted fever may be an issue,
    wonderful psych has gotten school to see this through a different lens. now they get it that he fell off the radar because he was doing so well.
    yesterday and today were okay at school. yesterday at home, I felt ds had fallen off a cliff when unable to do focus - on homework and more. he's okay today - I think he's in some form of PTSD. he seems good this afternoon.
     
    had a marghertia at a favorite restaurant tonight then stopped at grocery store for quick run-in - getting orange and lime juice for margheritas at home.
    with my 12 year old - he and I bought decadent brownies, then saw ben and jerry's on sale and got that. ( I know the whole diet issues - don't be worried - I got it handled)
     
    good thing dh was driving!
     
    please -- send good vibes for a good weekend and end of school for him!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from sf_mom in Am I foolish to think that my daughter is going to get better?   
    we are about 5.5 years from when I ever first heard the word "PANDAS". we were fairly lucky - it was about a month or so after my son's bizarre behaviors started. likely sometime - 6-12 months, like you beerae22 - after that a friend posted on facebook (not related to me, just in general)
    Life isn’t about waiting for the storm to pass… It’s about learning to dance in the rain. - Anonymous, more recently attributed to Vivian Greene
    I remember crying and crying and crying and thinking - I don't WANT to learn to dance, I just want it to STOP f-in' raining.
    and after some time of wallowing in that, a voice spoke in my head that said, "too bad, honey, it's raining and it's raining hard - so you better learn to dance or you're just going to be wet."
     
    Marianne Williamson once said when she gives advice, sometimes people say to her, "well, that's easy for you to say - you are not in this." and she says, "yes, it is - that's why I'm saying it"
    I want to say some things in that manner. I don't want to sound harsh - I know how you are feeling, because I've felt it -- I just don't feel it anymore. I'm on the other side and I know you will get there too. you just need to keep going in where you are now -- don't stop now - you'll be stuck where you are.
     
    yes, beerae, I know you want your life back and do not want where you are now. unfortunately, that is not where you are . so - yes, you are supposed to be grateful that she is in school and that she has friends -- NOT because she may not have that next year, but because those are wonderful things to be grateful about.
     
    it's funny how relative things are -- I recently did some work at my kids school with a very sweet 3rd grade boy who has behavioral issues, tricholomania, tics - and that's what I know in a few hours. and all I thought was - I hope his parents know how disregulated his immune system is and are working on healing it. I left that day feeling grateful that although it's been h**l and I NEVER would have chosen it, I know how troubled my son's entire system was, I know how we got him back on track and I have plans in place to keep him healthy and what to do when/if he slips. I know what he needs and how to work with him and it was NOT the level V school incompetent school officials tried to tell me it was 2 years ago. how many kids there also should not be there but no body knows it?
     
    you may find it helpful to use the Buddhist practice of seeing what there is to be grateful about what you are loathing at this minute. the times I have been able to do that - it's been bizarre -- it's like it just crumbles away -- maybe not the problem but the helplessness and despair.
     
    and no, you are not foolish - she will get better -- it just likely will not be on your time schedule. good luck
     
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    smartyjones got a reaction from T_Mom in it's the small things   
    I'm always hesitant to say things like this, so let's all knock on wood together, please. but, I do in hopes this silly story may give someone a glimmer of hope that there really is light at the end of the tunnel.
     
    today, ds has a check in appointment with doc. it has been 4 months. 4 months ago, I was happy that doc kicked him from the 2 month schedule we have had for about 4 years. we had tried it before, but had to come running in before the time was up. today, he's doing fine and it really is just a scheduled follow-up.
     
    as I've learned, I go in with my notes organized and ready so I don't forget anything. I wanted to discuss our issue with Vitamin D a few months ago (ds seemed to react with even small doses such as 400iu with pandas-like symptoms but tests low, in the 20s). i actually couldn't remember how i wanted to say what the behavior was. i had to look back in my notes to see what it was. it was 'unreasonable and over reactive upsets'.
     
    oh yes, how could i forget?! there was a time when we lived hourly with unreasonable and over reactive upsets and now I'm having to look up what the symptom is.
     
    yes, i am very grateful for that and i wish for everyone struggling hourly that your time to have to look up past symptoms is just around the bend!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from cobbiemommy in it's the small things   
    I'm always hesitant to say things like this, so let's all knock on wood together, please. but, I do in hopes this silly story may give someone a glimmer of hope that there really is light at the end of the tunnel.
     
    today, ds has a check in appointment with doc. it has been 4 months. 4 months ago, I was happy that doc kicked him from the 2 month schedule we have had for about 4 years. we had tried it before, but had to come running in before the time was up. today, he's doing fine and it really is just a scheduled follow-up.
     
    as I've learned, I go in with my notes organized and ready so I don't forget anything. I wanted to discuss our issue with Vitamin D a few months ago (ds seemed to react with even small doses such as 400iu with pandas-like symptoms but tests low, in the 20s). i actually couldn't remember how i wanted to say what the behavior was. i had to look back in my notes to see what it was. it was 'unreasonable and over reactive upsets'.
     
    oh yes, how could i forget?! there was a time when we lived hourly with unreasonable and over reactive upsets and now I'm having to look up what the symptom is.
     
    yes, i am very grateful for that and i wish for everyone struggling hourly that your time to have to look up past symptoms is just around the bend!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from MomWithOCDSon in it's the small things   
    I'm always hesitant to say things like this, so let's all knock on wood together, please. but, I do in hopes this silly story may give someone a glimmer of hope that there really is light at the end of the tunnel.
     
    today, ds has a check in appointment with doc. it has been 4 months. 4 months ago, I was happy that doc kicked him from the 2 month schedule we have had for about 4 years. we had tried it before, but had to come running in before the time was up. today, he's doing fine and it really is just a scheduled follow-up.
     
    as I've learned, I go in with my notes organized and ready so I don't forget anything. I wanted to discuss our issue with Vitamin D a few months ago (ds seemed to react with even small doses such as 400iu with pandas-like symptoms but tests low, in the 20s). i actually couldn't remember how i wanted to say what the behavior was. i had to look back in my notes to see what it was. it was 'unreasonable and over reactive upsets'.
     
    oh yes, how could i forget?! there was a time when we lived hourly with unreasonable and over reactive upsets and now I'm having to look up what the symptom is.
     
    yes, i am very grateful for that and i wish for everyone struggling hourly that your time to have to look up past symptoms is just around the bend!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from Mommy2MCL in it's the small things   
    I'm always hesitant to say things like this, so let's all knock on wood together, please. but, I do in hopes this silly story may give someone a glimmer of hope that there really is light at the end of the tunnel.
     
    today, ds has a check in appointment with doc. it has been 4 months. 4 months ago, I was happy that doc kicked him from the 2 month schedule we have had for about 4 years. we had tried it before, but had to come running in before the time was up. today, he's doing fine and it really is just a scheduled follow-up.
     
    as I've learned, I go in with my notes organized and ready so I don't forget anything. I wanted to discuss our issue with Vitamin D a few months ago (ds seemed to react with even small doses such as 400iu with pandas-like symptoms but tests low, in the 20s). i actually couldn't remember how i wanted to say what the behavior was. i had to look back in my notes to see what it was. it was 'unreasonable and over reactive upsets'.
     
    oh yes, how could i forget?! there was a time when we lived hourly with unreasonable and over reactive upsets and now I'm having to look up what the symptom is.
     
    yes, i am very grateful for that and i wish for everyone struggling hourly that your time to have to look up past symptoms is just around the bend!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from SSS in it's the small things   
    I'm always hesitant to say things like this, so let's all knock on wood together, please. but, I do in hopes this silly story may give someone a glimmer of hope that there really is light at the end of the tunnel.
     
    today, ds has a check in appointment with doc. it has been 4 months. 4 months ago, I was happy that doc kicked him from the 2 month schedule we have had for about 4 years. we had tried it before, but had to come running in before the time was up. today, he's doing fine and it really is just a scheduled follow-up.
     
    as I've learned, I go in with my notes organized and ready so I don't forget anything. I wanted to discuss our issue with Vitamin D a few months ago (ds seemed to react with even small doses such as 400iu with pandas-like symptoms but tests low, in the 20s). i actually couldn't remember how i wanted to say what the behavior was. i had to look back in my notes to see what it was. it was 'unreasonable and over reactive upsets'.
     
    oh yes, how could i forget?! there was a time when we lived hourly with unreasonable and over reactive upsets and now I'm having to look up what the symptom is.
     
    yes, i am very grateful for that and i wish for everyone struggling hourly that your time to have to look up past symptoms is just around the bend!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from Mommy2MCL in Need Help...Still Struggling   
    I have similar thoughts to LLM. may not be your issue at all, but my kids have had trouble with supplements that are supposed to be helpful.
     
    ds11 had trouble with a high dose probiotic -- not sure if it was the high dose or the specific strains. he does much better with a lower dose of only a few strains -- can't remember right now, but it is HMF Forte. he has also shown through energetic testing that NAC is not something that would be good for him - have never tried it. may also have trouble with Vitamin D - was showing some troubles that have improved when I stopped it.
     
    ds9 has had trouble with vitamin D that I still can't figure out. has had paradoxical reaction to GABA.
     
    they have also shown herx-like reaction to treatments. for us, it has been fairly short lived. ds9 had extreme reaction once that included food refusal. other than that, has been ramp up in symptoms. I'd say I am usually willing to think herx for about a week -- maybe 2 -- but no longer. that is just my thoughts of our experience. I've heard improvement with charcoal is a good indicator of herx but have never tried it.
     
    good luck!
     
     
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    smartyjones got a reaction from philamom in Harvey Singers new article   
    reminds me of a LLMD I heard speak a number of years ago. . . "I keep hearing from all these patients that their traditional doctors keep telling them, 'it's not Lyme, it's not Lyme'. Okay, fine. Something is significantly affecting these patients health, so if you think it's not Lyme, then find out what it is and TREAT IT."
     
    Dr. Singer -- something is significantly affecting these children's health!!!!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from MomWithOCDSon in Harvey Singers new article   
    reminds me of a LLMD I heard speak a number of years ago. . . "I keep hearing from all these patients that their traditional doctors keep telling them, 'it's not Lyme, it's not Lyme'. Okay, fine. Something is significantly affecting these patients health, so if you think it's not Lyme, then find out what it is and TREAT IT."
     
    Dr. Singer -- something is significantly affecting these children's health!!!!
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    smartyjones got a reaction from nicklemama in Is there such a thing as non-OCD or tics P.A.N.D.A.S.?   
    I would encourage you to read the pinned notices at the top of this forum on how OCD presents in children. my son had 'sudden onset' - although now I know there were other subtle symptoms before - at age 4.5. it was mainly wild, wacky obnoxious behaviors and school phobia and refusal. we saw a behavioral therapist who met with him a couple of times. at first, she thought he was presenting Asperger like behavior - and then he would do something to negate that thought. on visit 3, I was discussing some obnoxious things he'd done. I don't think i'll ever forget her words - "what you are describing sounds like OCD to me. . . but he's awfully young". I remember thinking, that doesn't seem like any OCD that I've ever heard of.
     
    we had titers drawn -- ASO was 898; he had a positive strep culture although no typical signs of strep and once he got on the correct abx for him, he had 100% remission. (although he backslide when off it)
     
    I also claimed I saw rapid eye blinking only one time for about 2 minutes.
     
    as I've learned more about OCD, I see how much of his behaviors are likely OCD. mainly in the 'just right' sense that if something is not just right in his mind, it is troublesome. this could be for your son, that his friends were doing something 'wrong' or out of what his mind would accept and that is why he yelled.
     
    also, there are things that he would do that could be considered tics -- but only to a very trained eye -- likely a pandas doc.
     
    so -- to me, what you describe very much sounds like pandas that we have experienced.
     
    my son is quite healthy today. we see an integrative MD and most of his journey has been with homeopathic medicine. still -- one of my biggest regrets is that initially, we didn't have him on abx long enough. after a horrible 5 day course of azith -- he had 100% remission with 30 days Keflex and then went off and backslide. he went back on, but not to the full dose and did not see the same results. it was good in that it sent us looking for other infections that he did have. but - knowing what I know now - I would have kept him on that initial Keflex much longer to have time to learn more and to develop plans A, B and C.
     
    good luck.
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    smartyjones got a reaction from rowingmom in School thinks Panda behavior is choice driven...need advice   
    are you in public school? does your child have a 504 or IEP?
     
    I would suggest you contact your county. you need help from the spec ed and behavioral specialists who know what they are doing. you can very nicely tell the school that you are doing this, so it is not a situation that you went over their heads without their knowledge. or you can first ask who in at the county level would be able to help. with that, you give them the option to reach out first.
     
    our personal experience was that things spiraled out of control INCREDIBLY quickly b/c the school personnel didn't know what they were doing -- just lack of experience and knowledge and reverting back to what they know and think rather than listening to understand what I was telling them. what I fault them for was not being able to realize they were out of their league. the county personnel were on the ball and informed and jumped up to the plate to research for a crash course in pandas. the school, for some still inexplicable reason, was reluctant to call in help from the county.
     
    I would suggest you not try to get into an educating them situation but rather talk in terms they understand like - 'Asperger-like' behaviors; intermittent extreme anxiety. I think they do better when they feel they are in familiar territory rather than thinking pandas is some outer space new diagnosis that only the mother can understand.
     
    a friend of mine just dealt with a similar situation, no pandas diagnosis - child with an IEP that was struggling in school, just spiraling down. she reached out to the county who have the experience, knowledge and wherewithal to find solutions.
     
    this could backfire in that then you have called in the 'big guns' but my experience is that the big guns are really interested in finding solutions b/c they have a better understanding of lawsuits, etc and are just much more on the ball.
     
    good luck.
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    smartyjones got a reaction from beeskneesmommy in pandas can be cured only if it's treated early?   
    hi said that the brain damage is allreday to big to be fixed;it's permanent, and that there is nothing else to help..
     
    please, if you are not familiar with it, look up the concept of the neuroplasticity of the brain. I do believe it is the overriding theory of the function of the brain, in today's world.
    and I think there is only more to come in the future -- NIH is likely getting ready to spend lots of $$ on the BRAIN initiative (hopefully) and I think they will only find more to support this concept.
     
    there are a couple of good books not related to pandas, but about the brain -- one is the Evolve Your Brain, that discusses this. The other is a little different, called My Stroke of Insight -- a neurologist who had a stroke and although she did have some permanent changes to her brain, how she embraced them and found them very valuable even though different from her previous functioning.
     
    furthermore, I believe there is simply not enough research, studies following cases, etc done on pandas to make such a statement.
     
    our personal story -- ds was diagnosed early but persisted with with symptoms after initial 100% remission on abx. I say he was sick from ages 4.5 to about 7 or 7.5. so, fairly 'early' treatment but still a number of years that his brain was under attack. he is very healthy now without ivig, pex nor long term abx. we have treated with an integrative MD using homeopathic remedies.
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    smartyjones got a reaction from Missmom in ping pong strep   
    i'm sorry -- I don't really know the answer you are seeking concerning ping-ponging back and forth between the two.
     
    I did just want to say, in relation to the confirmed strep in the 2 yo. I believe my pandas child, now 9, onset at age 4.5, never really kicked a confirmed strep infection he had at age 2 that he had the usual 10 day course for. he has shown allergic rash to penicillin, so he was on something else. at that time, we never thought to throat swab him after treatment. he had -pandas onset in full force, 2.5 years later and very high titers. I do believe he had strep festering that entire 2.5 years.
     
    i'd advise discussing with your ped, a protocol for follow up to confirm the strep has been fully treated.
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    smartyjones got a reaction from JuliaFaith in Senate Resolution - Naturopathic Health Week   
    for those interested in naturopathic medicine. . . this past week was naturopathic health week according to a Senate Resolution
    http://aanp.membershipsoftware.org/files/Naturopathic%20Medicine%20Week%20-%20S_%20Res_%20221(2).pdf
     
    a Resolution doesn't really do anything but proclaim that this is something people are interested in and the Senate is aware that it is of interest/concern to citizens -- but it is a showing that the naturopathic movement is growing.
    there is some good language in the resolution about chronic conditions/cost etc
     
    it is a positive step in movement towards insurance coverage for alternative methods -- still a long way off, but a step nonetheless.
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