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  1. difficulty "motor planning"; i.e. conceptualizing and figuring out what each part of his body needs to do in order to move a certain way or complete a task (what is an unconscious sense to us, becomes an active, conscious, frustrating sense to them)
  2. Could this be a motor planning issue? If so, I suspect it could be due to a flare.
  3. We found 3 doctors in Illinois that immediately (after seeing bloodwork) recognized this as PANDAS and/or Autoimmune Encephalitis). Unfortunately none accepted DS medical coverage. The first said that if we could not get insurance to pay for IVIG, we needed to “beg, borrow or steal” to get it, or he would be institutionalized. By this time we had already gone through our savings (including retirement savings) due to unpaid time off and unpaid medical expenses. We used crowd funding to pay for first IVIG. We saw immediate improvement, but it was not lasting. We stopped seeing first two PANDAS MDs, mostly due to location, cost and accessibility. Third MD ordered Cunningham Panel and was able to get IVIG covered under AE. Although this doctor does not take DS insurance, IVIG is considered a prescription and it is covered. I sometimes see on these posts that a child may only need 1 or 2 IVIGs. This was not the case for my DS (possibly because the illness went untreated for so many years). For your daughter, 1 or 2 may work. Read the book “Saving Sammy”. Beth Maloney’s son was cured with antibiotics alone, but again his illness went untreated for maybe a year or so. I think that’s what makes the difference. I believe it’s important to find a doctor experienced in PANDAS/PANS, not just someone who is open to the possibility and willing to give you antibiotics for a period of time.
  4. I’m sorry your daughter is still suffering and hasn’t seen much relief from the supplements. Her symptoms sound like autoimmune encephalitis (AE). This is the diagnosis that was used to get IVIG approved for my son from late 2017 thru present. In 2016, a rheumatologist (who had limited experience treating PANDAS kids) prescribed a high dose of Augmentin for 30 days, which worked like magic. Unfortunately his symptoms returned when she lowered the dose. IVIG was not covered for PANDAS, and she refused to order under AE, because he was not experiencing seizures. From what I read about Susannah Calahan (Brain on Fire book/movie), she was lucky to experience seizures, because that’s what led her to the doctor that diagnosed her with encephalitis. Apparently, some people (including my DS) have encephalitis without experiencing seizures. So his rheumatologist was wrong.
  5. Maybe the MAPS doc can order the Cunningham Panel (bloodwork). That’s how my DS got approval for IVIG. Also, be sure that Jonah doesn’t take Miralax. For my DS it was the tipping point to put him in full blown encephalopathy. I’m trying to get the word out because pediatricians prescribe it like water.
  6. Especially with the seizures, they should consider encephalitis!
  7. My first thought about your situation is that PANDAS/PANS is almost always dismissed when a child is on the so-called spectrum. My DS had sensory issues since he was an infant, but had his first major onset of PANS at age 8. He was then diagnosed with Autism and ADHD. His symptoms (sensitivity to odor & sound, lack of frustration tolerance, inability to focus, & OCD) turned exponentially worse overnight. If he already had Autism, this was not the natural progression of that condition. We also took our DS to many “experts” at a renown children’s hospital in our major city. PANDAS/PANS was never brought up, although I clearly expressed that the behaviors were abrupt within 48 hours of dental work. After I found out about PANDAS and directly asked the doctors, it was dismissed without running any tests. After 3 1/2 years, we were finally able to find a rheumatologist at the other major children’s hospital in our city who was willing to give DS 30 days of antibiotics. At this point he was completely debilitated and unable to attend school for several months. Miraculously, 90% of his symptoms went away for 3-4 weeks. Doctor gave him lower prophylactic dose of antibiotics for next 6 months, but he began to decline about a week after high dose was discontinued. Rheumatologist refused to refill higher dose. Symptoms became life threatening (refusing food and water) and he ended up back at first major children’s hospital. I was told it was a coincidence that DS went from severely mentally ill to “normal” for the time on high dose of antibiotics. Ultimately we were told by 2 different Integrative MDs (not affiliated with children’s hospital) that DS had Autoimmune Encephalitis. He has been receiving monthly IVIG for 20 months, and fluctuates from 80-90% symptom free. I’m sorry I can’t recommend a doctor in your area, but did want to give you hope that your son can improve even though he was undiagnosed and untreated for so long.
  8. I know that “inexpensive” supplements can add up, but we also used 5-HTP for our DS. It was recommended by an otherwise unhelpful psychiatrist. This was when DS was at crisis level. Need to use on empty stomach. I was able to get DS to and from bloodwork appointment on public transportation because of the 5-HTP. I don’t recall why we stopped using it. This was in 2016. I believed we stopped a couple months later when we finally found a doctor to prescribe high dose of Augmentin. What form is your Oil of Oregano? Again, we saw improvement, but used a high dose. 15 drops of undiluted 5x a day (mixed with orange juice). Something else we use as antibacterial and anti inflammatory is tea made from ginger root. I grate a hunk of ginger root and steep it in boiling water, then strain. It’s pretty spicy, but we like it. We’ve been chilling it and using as an alternative to unsweetened iced tea. At the risk of bombarding you with information, those were a few things I thought of.
  9. My heart breaks for you and your family. Since your DD’s onset is recent, there should be so much hope...if only the doctor’s weren’t working against you. What bloodwork did they run? Did they check for Mycoplasma Pneumonia? We spent years trying to find someone to evaluate our DS for PANDAS/PANS. Ultimately we used doctors that don’t accept our coverage or any coverage.
  10. I’ve used Grapefruit Seed Extract plenty of times for myself and DS....for sinus infections, etc. instead of antibiotic, also works as anti fungal. We have used it for both. Never had any herx reactions.
  11. I think that is Olive Leaf Extract. There are many positive posts about it here. I may try it for my DS as well. Also, I believe some of the premier PANS doctors recommend Goldenseal. From the older posts it looks like some families use Goldenseal along with the Oil of Oregano, as an alternative to antibiotics.
  12. Not sure if it will hurt to give her 10 days if she needs more than 10 days.
  13. My DS used Nystatin short term in the past, and there were no known side effects. When switched to Diflucan, he became so thirsty, he would need to drink what seemed like a gallon of water in one sitting. We discontinued it. Later I read that it is linked to death from dehydration. I also believe pharmaceutical anti fungals are not good for the kidneys. For yeast control he currently uses an herbal product called Candicid Forte. Also saccharomyces boulardii. Grape Fruit Seed extract works as anti fungal as well. From personal experience, the Master Cleanse can get rid of yeast.
  14. After suffering with OCD and intrusive thoughts for over 3 1/2 years, we finally were able to get a rheumatologist to prescribe a high dose of Augmentin for 30 days for our DS in 2016. During the 3 1/2 years we tried unsuccessfully to treat his symptoms with pharmaceutical meds. The doctor let us start the abx before his bloodwork came back, which ultimately showed normal Strep titers. She said we may continue the abx for the 30 days if we chose to. He had no response for the first ten days, but on day 11 or so his symptoms began to rapidly improve. Again, his bloodwork had come back normal. I think if the infection was too far in the past it doesn’t show up on the bloodwork, although the misfired antibodies continue to attack the brain. The Cunningham Panel is what got the PANS diagnosis for my DS. With PANS, there are 3 things to address: the infection, the inflammation and the immune response.
  15. I know. It is so overwhelming. Let me know if you start the Oil of Oregano. If I recall we saw an improvement within a week with a high dose of Oil of Wild Oregano.
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