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  1. I would suggest the opposite. I would definitely ask for an eeg. a seizure might change the way pans symptoms are treated or even help uncover a different diagnosis.

    just my $.02

     

    For my peace of mind, I might end up doing one anyway with a neurologist. If nothing comes out of it, at least I can check that off the list. I just needed to know if it could be a possible symptom. Still educating myself, I still have so much to learn about her condition.

     

    The other thing I have not done is go dairy or gluten free (have cut back though). Do I need to? I have eliminated artificial colors, preservatives in food like BHT (going organic pretty much for most stuff except vegetables that I can steam), stayed away from fast food, increased magnesium intake with nuts and greens (and epsom salt baths), increased probiotic intake, increased garlic, turmeric and ginger intake etc. for my child. It still looks like there is plenty of inflammation left.

     

    Are there natural anti-inflammatory supplements that I don't need a prescription for that I can use? Is there information on child dosage for those? Just curious since I am certain folks here have witnessed a whole gamut of knowledge passed around.

  2. Concerned Dad here.

     

    Can someone here tell me if their kid with tics zones out for about 15 seconds and then gets up and goes about doing their stuff just fine? The teacher has told me about those blank stares in school but so far, her math, reading and writing skills are in tact.

     

    My daughter has motor tics since Christmas and her motor tics have gotten slightly better in terms of a lower frequency of them (she is also able to control them while interacting with grandparents/neighbor kids somehow, I don't know how). However, lately, she has been zoning out more obviously on the carpet or even sitting on the playground for those 15-20 seconds and then resuming activity/playing. I am convinced she is a PANS kid. Her cognitive skills are in tact so far. However, I do want an EEG done to rule out absence seizures. When I wave my hand in front of her during those 15 seconds, she somewhat responds with a few blinks but not totally. Sometimes, it can be 10 seconds, sometimes it is 15 seconds but most of the time, it does not last even 20 seconds. There are no convulsions, whatsoever.

     

    What would you suggest my best course of action should be?

     

    Please, any input would be greatly appreciated.

  3. I take offense at description "throwing stones". posts, including my own, for other confirmation by others. that is very far from throwing stones.

    we ask for confirmation on this forum for any and all new suggestions. corroboration is necessary before we invest time, energy and money.

    I am not sure why you would call that throwing stones and why you would take an offensive tone.

     

    Terms like "marketing ploy" (something you used in a different thread), "essential snake oil" are terms I associate with shooting the messenger. I have made clear I don't have the answers, yet people want answers, so I finally shared all I know and see. I am not employed by Young Living, and I have the same testimonies to go by that you have read, and I am in week 2 of this effort, and need to devote my positive energy to my child. My stress levels as a parent are obviously getting to me, sorry if that came across as offensive.

     

    That is all I can say, man.

  4. Which oils did you give? I respect that you are not the exprert, but all of us on this forum would greatly appreciate the specific oils that you gave. Thanks!

     

    This probably will be my last post on this forum for a while because I prefer to surround myself with those that won't throw stones at what I perceive to be pointing them in the right direction. I don't know the answers, all I can tell you is that I am trying. You don't know me and I don't know you but I will say this. I will give you this info that I am using on my daughter right now but let me qualify again that I am not an oil expert and I got this plan from someone who treated his son for PANDAs and got it to work, that is my strong disclaimer.

     

    I don't need any of your money or need to sell oils to any of you, period, let us get that out of the way, I am blessed with a good only primary job and recently signed up for a Young Living account just to get essential oils wholesale instead of retail. I just want my 7 year old daughter's motor tics to go away, that was the only reason I joined this forum. You can check my posts prior to even going down this route. My daughter's tics symptoms include shoulder shrugging, neck rotation, playing with her hair etc., I am sure a lot of you can relate to that.

     

    To provide info on what I am exactly using on my daughter now (all essential oils, I purchased from Young living) :

     

    1) I do a skull suture application overnight of Frankincense (anti-inflammatory) and Clarity (brain friendly oil). Clarity can be substitued with BrainPower as well. Skull sutures are easier to spot on kids' skulls than the hard ones of adults. The skull sutures are the quickest way for the oils to infiltrate the blood brain barrier.

     

    2) I give her 1 ounce two times daily of Ningxia Red, a wolfberry extract juice from Young Living that has powerful anti-bacterial and anti-viral properties to clean her gut. I give her Mightyzymes, a young living supplement to aid with digestion since Ningxia Red has antibiotic properties and I have to balance it out with digestion aids and I also give her daily probiotics.

     

    3) I apply the capsule formula (Melaleuca Oil, Cistus, Exodus, Copaiba, Balsam Fir, Lavender, Thieves, Thyme and Oregano 1 drop each) to the base of each foot overnight. I also do a combination of easy breathing oils like Lavender, White Angelica, Peppermint etc. in a diffuser by her.

     

    4) I apply the raindrop massage with 2 drops of all the above oils on the back of my daughter once a week in about 10+ steps of the raindrop massage (popular massage used by massage therapists).

     

    An increase in initial tics and abdominal discomfort are symptoms that are possible that you should be prepared for and not get discouraged by, a lot of detoxing has to happen before the body heals. I am not jumping to my medicine bottles like I used to before, letting the body heal itself naturally, at least during this period of essential oils. I want to treat anything and everything naturally as much as possible (like tea with ginger for upset stomach etc.). Do not chase symptoms, focus on the cause. This has been echoed by countless parents in their testimonials on the www.pandashopeforhealing.com page.

     

    I have been using it on my daughter for about 2 weeks now and so far, I am noticing the same stuff those parents are noticing. I am hoping that over time, these tics will be gone. Right now, there are lots of good periods when she is not detoxing heavily, like 2 hours approx. without tics, so I thought I'd share, I'm holding on to those positives for a start. Good luck to all parents!!! I'd be glad to answer PMs anytime you want. I know the feeling of a parent that is vulnerable, which I am now, so many sleepless nights and anxiety sweats. But I have to press on and try my best, whether you believe in my approach or not.

  5. can someone on this forum corroborate success with essential oils? descriptions I found suggest immediate effect -- almost miraculous reversal which makes me seek more sources

    anyone?

     

    I think you should google "essential oils and blood brain barrier" and will find a lot of positive connections as to how essential oils have an impact on the blood brain barrier.

     

    That is what got me going in that direction. Hopefully, I can give you some positive news in a few months.

     

    Here are some articles I found that I thought I'd share (there is a lot of science in it):

     

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3796379/

     

    http://www.rnoel.50megs.com/pdf/theblood.htm

     

    Here is a video that I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cycfWaWnrkU

  6. what essential oils are you using? Thieves? please advise.

     

    thnks Brenda 20 yr old another flare then another first flare age 19 to HSV1 her dad had a bad fever blister back in Nov 2013

     

    Go to www.pandashopeforhealing.com and click on the free phone consultation link. Once you talk to Will, ask all the questions you want.

     

    It is amazing how much Will has dived deep into PANDAs and essential oils because of what he went through for his son. I even Skyped with him to make sure he is who he says he was, I am sure a lot of doubting Thomases here would do the same too given the stakes :).

  7. which oils did you give

     

    I am not an expert on oils, so I am following Will's advice on this.

     

    There are certain oils that are favorable for the brain like Brainpower, Peace and Calming, Clarity, Valor, Vetiver etc. and then there are certain oils like Frankincense that are anti-inflammatory oils. A combination of those are normally used.

     

    Each child is unique. Will normally formulates these plans based on what symptoms the child is showing (because Chelsa's son had a different kind of tics than Will's son and so have different ones) and provides you those. I'd suggest you contact Will directly through his website:

     

    http://www.pandashopeforhealing.com/

     

    Look at the testimonials out there. Click on the 'free phone consultation' link, that should get to Will soon. Will has made it his mission to educate and help other families like mine and others about PANDAs and the usage of oils.

  8. My daughter developed motor tics post flu, post Tamiflu. I have been in touch with another parent whose son, co-incidentally 6 got the flu before Christmas time and developed OCD and motor tics. That was four years ago, in 2010 December. Now, her son is free of the tics but still struggles with OCD and sensory issues. However, she also has a friend whose daughter developed tics post flu, without Tamiflu. So, if you are asking for proof that Tamiflu did it, I cannot say it did it. But it did put something over the edge, I strongly feel.

     

    If you read closely, Tamiflu cuts down the recovery time by only 2 days. But it is prescribed for 5 days typically. If I were advising a parent, I would say take it for 2 days and throw it away. It will keep the virus from multiplying with 2 days of Tamiflu in their system and let the body's natural antibodies kick in after that. My daughter still has those tics from 2 months ago (though slightly less frequent than what they were), and thankfully no OCD symptoms so far. I have gotten her diet straightened out right away once I noticed the tics and now, I have her on essential oil application every night to the bottom of her feet and a raindrop massage once a week since her tic symptoms are not terrible (once every half hour or hour).

     

    This is my personal experience. Good luck.

  9. I ran into someone in upstate New York named Will Cook who had put his son through 2 years worth of antibiotics before his son's white blood cell count dropped and he ended up going down the path of essential oils. He has this thing patted down to a science, the usage of the essential oils, and detoxing. He is a pastor who spent a lot of the last 3 years studying about PANDAs and PANs and in 4 months of essential oils usage, his son came out of the motor tics, mood swings etc. and has never looked back.
    I am in personal touch with him and he is helping my daughter with a personalized plan. He is not a doctor, he is just a pastor but he is currently helping about 100+ families. He has done lots of research, as you can see on his website below. He saw the video of a Mom named Chelsa applying Essential Oils to her son Joey that took away his motor tics. Chelsa helped Will and now he is helping so many families of parents with children that have PANDAs or PANs like symptoms.
    Will keeps in touch with some prominent PANDA doctors in Connecticut and New Jersey and publishes articles on his site that he gets info about from them periodically. He had hit rock bottom with his son when his white blood cell count dropped to such levels and felt he had to seek alternate treatment. That is how his essential oils investigation and depth of information on his site came all about. Just thought I'd give you some background info if that helps.
    In case you wanted to see it, here it is:
    While I am not 100% certain my kid is a PANDAs or PANs kid, I do know she has motor tics following the flu/Tamiflu, and has had some mood swings in the past though none like a meltdown. She does feel calmer with the essential oils and sleeps well since I started it a week ago, the tics still persist. I feel that I need to exhaust every natural means along with diet to deal with the bacteria and viruses. I am giving the Essential oils a few months try to the best of my abilities. Wish me luck.
    Best of luck to all of you parents!!!

  10. Did you have any blood testing done? Regardless of how you decide to go forward, I wouldn't stop until you had blood work done. If nothing shows up and her symptoms and/or tics don't worsen, then great- do what you think is best and follow up later. But if something does show up, it will give you a direction to go in.

     

    If she has issues later and you didn't at least get a work up, I think you'll regret not pursuing it.

     

    I would also keep a close eye on her. OCD can be sneaky, and often times its victims are afraid or ashamed to "tell" their thoughts or fears. Hopefully she doesn't have any though! :) does she seem to be improving as time goes on?

     

    The grimacing of the mouth I saw post Christmas is pretty much gone now. All that is remaining is neck jerking or a slight head rotation. That has been over the last 3 weeks since we cut down the sugar and ramped up our healthy eating habits.

     

    I will keep a close eye on it, of course. She just came back home scoring 98% in her weekly math class test. As a first grader in high ability, she added numbers in the thousands in her class test last week. It is mighty hard looking at everything with a cynical eye but I am trying my best to be objective and not jump to conclusions. I get weekly updates from her class teacher regarding her tics and mood too, and so far so good.

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    so you have sudden onset of tics but no other symptoms. i'd go with that.

     

    "I will get her tested and see if she is deficient on any front." -- do you mean cognitively? I am not sure you need this. Cognitive impairment is usually obvious -- like kids who were excellent in math suddenly can't do basic addition, heand-writing skill disappears, and alike.

     

    i would suggest doing comprehensive blood work for any auto-anti bodies. Again, I am not convinced this is PANS. have you consulted tic forum?

     

    Yes, that is what I meant. Blood testing to see if there are any auto antibodies. Can you get blood tested without a doctor's approval?

     

    When I first brought it up to the pediatrician 2 weeks ago, she asked me to wait till the neurologist appt. on the 20th and let them determine if she needs that. My gut says I need the blood testing done. I have never had her blood tested whatsoever since she was a baby, during the first 3 months for serious ailments, and that is about all she has had done on the blood testing front.

     

    if you want to get her tested, make sure to go to the apt prepared. make your case that this is Pans like auto-immune reaction. argue that you want to rule it out, if nothing else. (this if the neurologist is not PANS friendly)

    point to family history -- tics run in families as do autoimmune conditions.

    have a list of blood tests you want performed ready.

     

     

    Went to the neurologist. They did their cognitive and motor tests. My 7 year old daughter tested fine on all fronts. I asked about OCD, they said that they did not recognize anything from our answers that can pinpoint to OCD but did say to keep an eye on her anxiety. They said girls are more likely to get out of this than boys based on data for transient tics, however anxiety and OCD reduces those odds. Though we told them and they observed that she had only motor tics, they asked her about if she had any urges to make weird noises or clear her throat (I understood why they wanted to confirm). She said No to both those.

     

    I talked to them about PANs and PANDAs and they said if we did not know exactly what we are looking for, we may be asking the wrong questions, especially when there was no family history of tics. They did schedule a follow up in 6 months. I am a little torn on what to do but I have not exhausted all non-medication possibilities yet in terms of diet and essential oils, which is probably what I will focus on heavily the next six months.

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    We have taken her to a chiropractor that specializes with kids and he found misalignment around her C1 vertebrae in her neck, right where the tics can originate. We hear a pop whenever she jerks her neck that goes away after a series of adjustments and then the body goes back to its badly aligned state and over the weekend, the pop is back. The chiro feels he can really help her, and we are hopeful he can.

    Is this a "specific chiropractor"? (specializing in brain stem / spine alignment?)

     

    I have taken my daughter to one for an evaluation several years ago. He said that there is significant stress in her brain stem area. My pediatrician laughed from it, and I never followed up.

    I am interested to know more about this. With my pediatrician not being of much help, I am thinking if we should take her anyway.

     

     

    Yes, this chiro specializes in spine alignment. They do an X-ray followed by EMS (electro magnetic scanning) that shows their neck curvature (and spine too), how much it deviates from the normal 45 degrees (my daughter's was 23 degrees) and work on correction. The C1 vertebrae had some issues, and that is an area connected to the Otic ganglion, a nerve responsible for so many of the head and neck movements and logically might have some impact on tics too. That is why I went down that path.

     

    I have a co-worker with 2 boys - one who has juvenile diabetes and another who has had seizures in his life, this chiro treats them both and has done so for a couple of years. My co-worker told me that he was skeptical in the beginning too but once he took his 2 boys and his adopted girl to that chiro for the last 2 years, they rarely get sick since their nervous system (which is connected to several organs in the body and controls pretty much everything) and even if they do get sick, get out of it fast. The situation my co-worker dealt with his boys is what prompted me to give that a shot for my daughter's tics.

  13. so you have sudden onset of tics but no other symptoms. i'd go with that.

     

    "I will get her tested and see if she is deficient on any front." -- do you mean cognitively? I am not sure you need this. Cognitive impairment is usually obvious -- like kids who were excellent in math suddenly can't do basic addition, heand-writing skill disappears, and alike.

     

    i would suggest doing comprehensive blood work for any auto-anti bodies. Again, I am not convinced this is PANS. have you consulted tic forum?

     

    Yes, that is what I meant. Blood testing to see if there are any auto antibodies. Can you get blood tested without a doctor's approval?

     

    When I first brought it up to the pediatrician 2 weeks ago, she asked me to wait till the neurologist appt. on the 20th and let them determine if she needs that. My gut says I need the blood testing done. I have never had her blood tested whatsoever since she was a baby, during the first 3 months for serious ailments, and that is about all she has had done on the blood testing front.

  14. perhaps I am tired and did not read sriramcs's post carefully enough. is the neck movement the only symptom? if it is, it may not be PANS. Pans usually comes with a few symptoms at the same time.

    how about frequent urination? separation anxiety? ocd in any form?

     

    Since you asked, let me list them out pre-flu and post-flu:

     

    1. Tics - neck and head jerking along with facial grimacing
      1. None before flu and Tamiflu
      2. Started once she went off Tamiflu and got over the flu
      3. Have reduced to neck and head jerking probably once in 15 or 30 minutes and increasing in frequency during times of stress or high activity. Facial grimacing has pretty much died down, just the neck and head jerking remain. If not for the tics, I would not even be here.
    2. OCD tendencies
      1. Like I said, she has been an anxious kid for the last 2 years, very conscious of what teachers think, doing things by the book so that she does not want to get in trouble. We have re-iterated more and more that it is OK to not be perfect and have requested that teachers say that once in a while too so that she can hear from them. She has responded well so far and is not too worried about it since she went back to school after the winter break but we will keep an eye on it.
      2. My wife volunteers at school every Monday and one mean boy in my daughter's 1st grade class told my daughter that her Mom is fat and so is his. Go figure, kids are nasty at every age. That has led her to ask more often if she is fat. I tell her that she is just fine for her age and is in the 50th percentile in weight and 75th in height. I tell her it is best to eat healthy and re-evaluate every few months instead of worrying about it daily. I think it is more a factor of that boy joining her class in October and making those comments than OCD. I told the teachers to keep that boy away from her to reduce her stress levels.
    3. Separation Anxiety
      1. My wife or I always have slept with her for the first 10 minutes before letting her sleep by herself and she normally falls asleep fast enough when we do that, no different before flu, no different after flu. We realized the Epsom salt baths were getting her actually energized and she had a harder time sleeping, so we are saving it for the weekends and Fridays. Her sleep patterns are pretty much the same. Maybe we have enabled her but I do not see a reason to change it up at this point while she is having tics to introduce more stress.
    4. Frequent Urination
      1. Nope. She sleeps through the night without the urge to go to the bathroom despite us increasing her water intake.

    So, given these facts, I am not jumping to conclusions towards PANS since all her abilities (math, puzzle solving, reasoning, cognitive skills) are all 100% functional. I will get her tested and see if she is deficient on any front. I will explore some essential oils that I have heard work for kids with tics and then go down the integrative medicine route if that does not work. I will keep you all posted how it goes. I will keep an open mind as advised and wish all parents on here luck with their kids as well. You parents are a big source of my strength, let me stress that :).

  15. just want to chime in and offer encouragement too. Stay connected with forums like this for support and information. I've learned (am learning) so much her myself. My son is dealing with lyme, and so his stuff has been a lyme triggered PANS situation.

    I remember when my son first had a sudden onset blinking motor tic last year. I can relate to sriramcs post about feeling so upset and loosing sleep. I remember last year when the tic started I just wanted to back time up. It was so sudden, like the name says "sudden onset". There were no other signs or warnings (well, that I recognized then). It started on a Wed. and I remember thinking for days, I just wanted to go back to that Tuesday. And wondering what had happened, what in the world was going on. Then you dig and dig and research and find a good dr. and support and learn, and realize that it can get better.

    My little guy is just about 99% symptom free and doing really well overall, feeling good. He stopped ticcing last year after 6 weeks;

    he did unfortunately start again this past fall and it still hasn't resolved 100%, but it is usually minor and I believe full heartedly that it will go away as we work through the triggers (we're detoxing, combating yeast, and infections). This isn't easy to see the ones you love the most go through these things, but hang in there! There are answers and there is another side to this; I believe it!

     

    Thank you all for the encouragement!!!

     

    To me, it is too co-incidental that once she got the flu and had Tamiflu prescribed, she starts the tics a few days after coming off it. The docs tested her for strep first and then the flu next. Strep tests came negative and the flu came out positive. I have heard of side effects of Tamiflu on young ones (after I researched in hindsight and have been in touch with a Mom whose son had tics post Tamiflu) but at that point, all I knew to do was follow my pediatrician doctor's advice. Sometimes, I wish in hindsight to just let her endure the flu by controlling temps with just Tylenol and Advil but I cannot go back in time, can't beat myself up in hindsight. I can't even for certain say that Tamiflu is the cause but that is the only thing introduced into her system at that point.

     

    Here are some questions for parents:

     

    1. If it is virus and flu related shock to my 7 year old girl's system and not bacterial, can it still be classified as PANDAs?
    2. I tried 4 days of dairy free but the biggest difference I saw was when was well rested and not stressed. When she is well rested, she tics lesser (more like once in half hour) but when she is tired or stressed or competing in a game, her tic frequency go up like 3 or 4 times a minute and it is very very hard for me to watch her ticcing and keep smiling from across the table on and off though it is what I have been doing. Even if I do not see improvement within a few days, do I still keep her dairy free or try gluten free (different things at different times) to see what she responds to. She has NEVER been allergic to any foods, so do I just wait for her body to work out the Tamiflu in a few months? I am keeping her hydrated and on a healthy diet with 99% of her stuff organic and keeping her sugar and dairy intake to a minimum. Periodic intake of boiled eggs for folic acid, organic apple sauce with cinnamon and probiotics mixed in them, regular spinach salads, unscented stuff used for washing her clothes, fish for Omega-3, epsom salt baths for magnesium relaxation, plenty of oranges and organic apples, and occasional garlic in her food too are all I have incorporated. Her mood tantrums have been no different than what they were a year ago, so ability wise and mood wise, she behaves fine. I do have a DLP TV and she watches about an hour of TV a day during school days and a couple of hours during the weekends, and this has been cut down from several hours before.
    3. Her motor and math/reading/social skills are still top notch and working at 100%, she is entering week 5 of her tics. We have taken her to a chiropractor that specializes with kids and he found misalignment around her C1 vertebrae in her neck, right where the tics can originate. We hear a pop whenever she jerks her neck that goes away after a series of adjustments and then the body goes back to its badly aligned state and over the weekend, the pop is back. The chiro feels he can really help her, and we are hopeful he can. Her facial grimacing part of the tics that we saw over Christmas has virtually gone down, however her neck and head movement part of the tics still remain. Is patience my best ally? Am I doing enough here? Do I consider homeopathic treatment if I am reluctant to introduce allopathic medications at this point?
    4. I live in Indiana and am taking her to Riley Children's hospital's neurologist on January 20th. So far, all we have told my 7 year old girl is that we are getting her neck checked out making sure there is nothing wrong with it. We haven't used the words tics or sickness to describe any of it. Her physical was top notch from her pediatrician. Her eyesight was 20/20 (though she keeps rubbing her eyes on and off, has happened for the last 4 months though 3 eye tests have revealed 20/20). My first line of thought is that I will refuse any medication that the neurologist advocates because all it does is mask the symptoms and not treat the causes, I am pursuing the natural means as long as possible, I have had enough of medicines in my daughter's system, especially after the recent Tamiflu episode. Do I finally tell her that post flu, she has been having these neck jerks that will go away eventually but we have to keep an eye on it? She is an anxious Type A child (goes back to kindergarten more than a year and a half ago, she is in first grade now) and worries she will be a failure/abnormality if something is wrong with her. I have been told that the less attention you bring to it, the easier the stress on the child and the quicker it will go away. I know parents have to play the fine line. That is why I am asking for parents' advice as to how to tactfully get across to my child.

     

    Any advice on the above would be GREATLY appreciated.

  16. My 7 year old daughter got a mutated version of the flu at the beginning of December 2014. We got her the flu mist in October but because this was a mutated version, she still got the flu.



    The pediatrician office did a swab test for STREP from the back of the throat, it came out negative. Then, they tested for the flu inside her nostrils, it came out positive. Never had any issues with motor tics whatsoever.



    First time I noticed it was 3 days after she got off Tamiflu at a Christmas event. It has progressed to facial grimacing as well along with the neck jerking. My wife and I are devastated. I have a video of her from November showing no symptoms or signs, she was a perfectly normal high ability child. It is too co-incidental that she gets the flu, then the Tamiflu, and has these motor tics afterwards.



    All her abilities as far as reading, math, social skills are still TOP NOTCH but she has these twitches that she can't help or control. Please help. Will this eventually go away? I am changing diet to avoid dairy, sugary foods etc. but she has NEVER had food allergies, makes this grown man want to kneel down and cry. How do I get the Tamiflu out of her system? How can I help my little girl?



    I have been losing sleep for a few days trying to see what I could have done different (stop Tamiflu after a few doses, watched less football and spent more time with her etc.) beating myself up. I know I have to stop but I just need to hear from those who have been in my shoes. Anything would help.


  17. Hi,

     

    I am new to this forum. We haven't had an official diagnosis of TS for our six year old son yet. It's only been a month since symptoms began. But we are still looking for answers. Our story: five weeks ago my son had the flu (maybe H1N1) and was put on Tamiflu for five days. A week after being sick he caught a cold in class. He started with coughing and sniffing, that turned into more of a snorting. Around Christmas, he started coughing regularly, and not because he was sick. After that, it turned more into a snort with soft vocals, repeating the phrase "Is this OK" and "is that OK." He had a couple of days where it was non stop, like every few seconds. We were terrified. We took him to the ER and the on call Pediatric Neurologist gave a preliminary diagnosis of early Tourettes. He prescibed Clodomine (sp?) for the tics. We didn't fill the prescription. I was also surprised that this DR made a diagnosis without ever seeing my son, or talking to us. He only spoke on the phone with the attending DR in the ER. But he said that because my son was talking, it was Tourettes.

     

    A few days later we were able to see our regular pediatrician. She said it was too early to diagnose TS and that many of her patients my son's age have transitory tics that go away after time. She didn't seem to think being vocal was a determining factor, just yet. Also, she said that the drug Tamiflu has been linked to neuropychological side effects in children, and this may be related. We would have to wait and see.

     

    I am just so worried and confused. My son doesn't seem to have the classic early Tourette symptoms. Up until he was sick, we never saw any motor tics or unusual behavior. He did have a couple of weeks where he opened his jaw every now and then. But he told me it was because it hurt. The dentist looked at this mouth and said he had a couple of molars coming in and that could cause some discomfort. The only other thing that he does have is sensitivity to tags on clothing and sometimes he says his socks feel wrinkled. But other than that, there is no OCD or anxeity. I would say he tends to be an active boy, but not ADHD.

     

    Does anyone have a similar story? I'm trying to figure out if this is related to the Tamiflu, or if it's PANDAS, or early TS. He mostly only whispers and talks, sometimes after snorting. Lately his phrases have been complex, like "And this OK, hos, Shos...and is that OK, shos" He also has been repeating a sound "hos" over and over. It is so scary. There have been no head jerking, eye blinking, or body movements. Once in awhile he will stand straight, like being at attention. But it doesn't happen much.

     

    I should also note that I have eliminated sugar, most dairy, no food dyes or corn syrup. He takes Vitamin C, D, Omega 3, and Greenies. He hates veggies and doesn't even like fruit. The diet thing has been really hard. I also have been giving him Epsom salt baths every other night. They do seem to help control the tics a bit.

     

    Thanks.

     

    My 7 year old daughter got a mutated version of the flu at the beginning of December 2014. We got her the flu mist in October but because this was a mutated version, she still got the flu.

     

    The pediatrician office did a swab test for STREP from the back of the throat, it came out negative. Then, they tested for the flu inside her nostrils, it came out positive. Never had any issues with motor tics whatsoever.

     

    First time I noticed it was 3 days after she got off Tamiflu at a Christmas event. It has progressed to facial grimacing as well along with the neck jerking. My wife and I are devastated. I have a video of her from November showing no symptoms or signs, she was a perfectly normal high ability child. It is too co-incidental that she gets the flu, then the Tamiflu, and has these motor tics afterwards.

     

    All her abilities as far as reading, math, social skills are still top notch but she has these twitches that she can't help or control. Please help. Will this eventually go away? I am changing diet to avoid dairy, sugary foods etc. but she has NEVER had food allergies, makes this grown man want to kneel down and cry. How do I get the Tamiflu out of her system?

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