magnesium-rich supplement protocol taught by CPhA
Posted 17 July 2003 - 08:50 PM
Yes, teardrop shaped red blood cells are common in a variety of conditions of "disordered erythropoiesis". They indicate red blood cell formation from the spleen and not from the bone marrow, the predominant way. http://cpl.yonsei.ac...g-r-ab-tear.htm
**Teardrop red blood cells can also be artifacts on the peripheral blood smear and mean nothing, so it is important that the blood smear be made by qualified technical laboratory personnel and evaluated by certified laboratory technologists before jumping to conclusions.
"Teardrop Cell (Dacrocyte)
Red cells appearing in the shape of a teardrop or a pear with a single, short or long, often blunted or rounded end are called teardrop cells. These are commonly seen in myelofibrosis with myeloid metaplasia, but may be seen also in pernicious anemia, anemia of renal disease, hemolytic anemias, and other forms of severe anemia. Bone marrow infiltration with hematologic and non-hematologic malignancies may also be accompanied by dacrocytosis. Teardrop cells may also be seen as an artifact of slide preparation; such dacrocytes are usually easily recognized from the fact that their "tails" all point in the same direction. "
This link about dark field microscopy reflects most of my negative views about its use in alternative health care: http://www.canoe.ca/...mns/010511.html
Posted 20 July 2003 - 09:02 AM
I read earlier where you said that high doses of stearic acid can compromise immunity. My son is taking 600 mg of magnesium glycinate a day (3 tablets). It lists stearic acid and magnesium stearate under Other Ingredients. Do you consider this a high dose that could lead to problems? Thanks so much for your input.
Posted 21 July 2003 - 07:04 PM
A few pills with stearate in it probably doesn't cause immunity problems. Stearate in pills that are taken in large quantity may. Studies show that stearic acid is incorporated into the phosphatidylcholine in cell membranes of T cell lymphocytes causing loss of membrane integrity of this immune cell. Stearate is a saturated fatty acid also found in lots of the greasy food that we eat...
Posted 22 July 2003 - 08:48 AM
Thanks for your reply. I don't mean to sound dense, but if he's taking 3 pills everyday long term, should I consider that a high dose? I'll certainly switch if necessary. I've looked for mag glycinate without the stearate but can't find it in the stores. It's worked nicely as far as taking fewer pills because each one is 200 mg, but we'll go with whatever is safest.
I'm just amazed at all I learn by reading this board and the other TS boards. It's a little scary to think of all the bad stuff we consume and breathe and encounter each day that most of us don't know anything about. Luckily my kids are pretty accepting of the changes in our diet, and I certainly let them have treats at times, but I still feel a bit like the nutty "natural" mom who has to explain to other people why I won't let my kids eat all the stuff the other kids eat!
Posted 22 July 2003 - 09:08 AM
I know how you feel Nancy.....but I would rather have the "odd" label and protect my family!
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Posted 22 July 2003 - 12:40 PM
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Posted 22 July 2003 - 08:58 PM
Since I don't know which lab tests were run, what their results were, and which laboratories were used I cannot be very helpful. Laboratory medicine is my expertise in which I am certified by the ASCP as a Medical Technologist so I believe that I can have an intelligent opinion in this area. I also am a graduate student in Nutrition and feel that I can be helpful in this area also. I am not a doctor, however, and don't wish to overstep my bounderies. All I have is my humble opinion...
I don't believe that all environmental physicians use bogus dark field microscopy and non-CAP certified labs for their lab tests. I don't believe that all environmental physicians rely on unreliable hair analyses. Also, I don't believe that all environmental physicians use Nystatin and anti-fungals when no overgrowth of yeast is tested for by valid lab methods or yeast allergy tests performed and found positive. The same goes for the use of DMSA for toxic metals - I don't believe that all environmental physicians do not run valid blood and urine tests before prescribing chelation therapy. I would expect my environmental physician to be responsible in good clinical practices or I would not return.
DMSA may chelate magnesium also (in addition to other "good metals" such as calcium, manganese, zinc or selenium) so that is a consideration. Reputable physicians would closely monitor the urine during chelation therapy for these minerals as well as mercury, lead and arsenic.
One thing for sure is to get a "CBC with peripheral smear" test ordered by your doctor to be done at a CAP certified lab such as LabCorp to see if the red/white blood cells are alright.
Posted 23 July 2003 - 08:32 AM
Thanks for the clarification!
Posted 26 July 2003 - 07:28 PM
I get my Magnesium from Vitaminshoppe.com. I went to every store in my area looking for the Magnesium Taurate...No luck. I've been dealing with VitaminShoppe for a couple of years now, and they are FAST at getting the supplements to you, and their selection is incredible. (No, I don't work for them.
Thanks for everything you are doing for helping our kids. Adding the supplements you recommend has made a big difference in my son's tics. Has the study on Magnesium started yet?
Posted 27 July 2003 - 09:23 AM
Thanks for the info. There is actually a Vitaminshoppe store that opened near me - I'll stop in there and see if they have the same selection. Bonnie's magnesium taurate work well for my son but since they're only 50 mg each he has to take a lot each day - I read on one of the forums that Bonnie is looking into putting more magnesium in each capsule, which would cut down on the number of capsules each day, which would be great. Thanks again!
Posted 28 July 2003 - 07:39 AM
Thanks for your kind words...I'm glad that I have had a part in helping your son! I am gathering adult participants with a Tourette's syndrome diagnosis in the central Ohio area who have not taken supplements for at least 6 months for my TS nutritional study with Dr. DiSilvestro at the Ohio State University. If anyone here fits that category and wishes to have a small amount of blood drawn for this study please contact me at BonnieGr@aol.com by Aug. 1, 2003. Together we can work to unlock the mysteries of TS...
Posted 07 August 2003 - 12:24 PM
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